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Collecting Hewlett-Packard Calculators
[Collecting]
18th May 2003
So you have a Hewlett-Packard calculator left over after college days and
you want to sell it. Where do you sell it?
Obviously, you sell it on eBay - the largest world-wide bazaar for
turning your old junk into someone else's prized possession, and earning
a nice chunk of cash for yourself.
But how do you sell it on eBay? Go to www.ebay.com and check out the selling
guides. You'll have to sign up, go through the verification steps, and
get yourself established. If you already have good feedback on eBay,
then you are in the best possible position. If you have zero feedback or
feedback less than 10, then you have a small problem. Bidders will be
reluctant to bid because of your newness. So do some buying. Buy a few
small items. Sell a few small things. Get yourself 100% good feedback
over 10, and then you are ready to start selling your HP
calculators.
Anyone can sell their calculator, but not everyone gets a good price,
let alone a great price. So how do you get a great price for your
calculator on eBay?
You have to do research. If you want to get the best possible price for
your calculator, you have to do some work.
- Put the model number in the auction title. How can people bid on
your auction if they can't find it? Look at the best titles of
existing auctions, and do likewise.
- Learn how to describe your calculator. Search on "HP calculator"
and look at the auctions. Search on your specific models and see how
they are described. Be honest in your description. If your calculator
has flaws, describe them. Best to be honest now than earn bad
feedback, charges of fraud, and get hounded by irate buyers. The
better and more detailed your description, the better your price will
be.
- Learn how to display your calculator. Look at the other auctions
and see the photos that are used. Don't use other people's photos.
Take your own photos of your actual calculator. Several photos are
best - good clean, clear close-ups showing the front and the back, and
definitely showing the calculator working. Best of all, include a
photo showing the results of the self-tests. See the HP Calculator Museum for how to
run the self-tests. The better the photos, the better the price.
- Use a low starting bid. Do not have a high starting bid or no-one
will start bidding. A low bid encourages people to start bidding. Once
people start bidding, the psychological aspects of ownership encourage
continued bidding.
- Don't worry if you get no bids in the first few days, or only one
or two bids up to the last day of the auction. You'll get a lot more
bids in the last minute of the auction. It's also great if you get a
new bidder, because they don't have a clue on how to bid and try and
win the auction through the entire auction. The wise bidder knows that
the only time you want to be winning the auction is when it ends.
Hence the flurry of bids in the last minute.
- If you are confident that you have a great calculator that will
sell well, then don't bother to set a reserve. But if you are scared
of selling your calculator too cheaply, or it's your first auction and
you're worried that your lack of feedback will hinder your chances,
set a reserve price. A low starting bid encourages bidding, and a
reserve guarantees that you won't have to sell it too cheaply.
- But how much should the reserve be? Do some research. Search eBay
for completed auctions for your model. Note the closing prices. Note
the condition and the extras it came with. Estimate what yours will be
worth. You'll always over-estimate, because you want to. Try and be
realistic. It costs you money if your reserve is too high and the
calculator doesn't sell. You still have to pay eBay. So be
realistic.
- The final selling price (and your reserve) depends on many things.
If the calculator doesn't work, it will still sell, but not for very
much. If it works, you get a lot more money. If it can pass the HP
self-tests and you have a photo showing the self-test results, you get
more money. If the items are unscratched and undented, and the photos
show it, you get more money. If you have the original case, you get
more money. If you have the manuals, you get more money. If you have
add-ons, you get more money. If you have original boxes, you get a lot
more money. The better the condition, the more money you get. The
better your description, the more money you get. The better your
photos, the more money you get.
- Some models raise more money than others. The HP10C, HP15C and
HP16C generally sell well. The HP41C sells well, as do the HP67 and
HP97. Older models sell well. There are rare ones, and special
editions. You have to do some research to see what yours is worth.
There are a lot of resources to help you determine what yours is. Use
the links elsewhere on this page, and do some research.
- Alternatively, if you don't want to do any work or research, sell
them to me. I'll offer you $10 to $40 for your calculator depending
on what it is. Probably a tenth of its value. And I'll want to do
escrow or something else like that, and I'll want you to pay for it.
I'm usually reluctant to buy outside eBay. With an eBay auction, you
can use feedback to help judge the integrity of the seller. You have
comebacks if the seller or the buyer tries to cheat you. You have less
safety if you sell outside eBay. But I'm willing to take the risk if
you're willing to sell your calculator at a tenth of its value. But
you'd be a real chump to do that. Best if you do your research, and do
some homework, and sell it through eBay and get a decent price for
it.
- Be honest. Don't cheat. Play nice.
- Good luck.
[Collecting]
26th April 2003
I've been asked quite a few times where you can buy Hewlett Packard
calculators today. It's been a few years since I saw any in the stores.
Last one I saw was a HP12C in WalMart, but that was in 2001. Before then
I saw a few of the cheap ones in a Best Buy, but they didn't stay
available for long. Since then, I haven't seen any new calculators in
the stores. Texas Instruments have won. Their calculators are faster,
cheaper, and they're ubiquitous. And they don't do RPN so the masses can
understand them. And they have no soul. So of course they're
everywhere.
If you're looking to buy Hewlett Packard calculators, you have a very
few limited places to look.
- Pawn Shops. However you'll usually get them without any manuals.
You'll need the manuals. Some of the manuals are available from the HP Calculator Museum CD disc set.
The manuals for newer calculators won't be available there. You'll
need to wait patiently for the manuals to turn up on eBay. And
eventually, they will. Today, pawn shop owners price their calculators
through watching eBay auctions. It's rare to find a bargain, but they
do turn up occasionally. Be wary, and test the calculator thoroughly.
Look out for scratched screens, battery compartment corrosion, and
damaged keys. Test it thoroughly before you buy it.
- Ask your relatives if they have any HP calculators lying around
the attic. If they've been to college, you might be surprised just
what they do have tucked away. Offer them $10 for the calculator and
you might be pleasantly surprised. Ask parents of friends if they have
any. Ask anyone in their 40s and 50s if they have HP calculators lying
around and if they want to sell them.
- The HP Calculator Museum
classified ads. Have a look on the site, find the classifieds and see
if they have what you need. Also check out the notes on where to find
HP calculators that's on the museum. They have some good hints
there.
- Samson's Cables online
store. These guys specialise in HP calculators and accessories. I've
bought from them and the experience was very pleasant.
- Asena's Shop. Go down to
the site directory and look under electronics, and click on
Calculators. They usually have some Hewlett Packard calculators
available. I've also bought from these guys, and again, it was a
pleasant experience.
- eBay. eBay always has HP
calculators for auction. Hundreds and hundreds of HP calculator
auctions every day. Just search on "HP calculator" and spend an hour
or two browsing through what's available. And yes, I've bought
HP calculators on eBay, and I've never had a bad experience.
[Collecting]
5th March 2003
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Hewlett Packard have released two new calculators. There's the 9S
which is a small cheap limited scientific calculator, costs about $12.
And the 9G is a small cheap graphing style calculator, costs about
$50. They both have the same size and shape, similar to the earlier
30S. And they're both algebraic calculators.
With the addition of these two calculators, I have run out of my space
in my display cabinet. I'll have to get a second one, as I have a few
more older calculators on the way.
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[Collecting]
21st July 2002
I finally found something nice to store the calculators in. This is
allegedly a toolbox. I've never seen a toolbox lined with felt and made
from such nice wood. It's more like a jewelry box, only bigger.
[Collecting]
22nd June 2002
In 1999, I wrote a few words about
my early history with Hewlett-Packard calculators.
I started with HP calculators way back in the early 1970s when I was at
university, when I bought a HP45. Then came a HP25, and then a HP67.
Those machines came and went. Some died, and one I sold. Later in the
early 1980s, I bought a HP11C. I still have it. In the late 1980s, I
happened to be passing through Singapore and found a HP16C, the
programmer's calculator. I still have this calculator, and still use it
at work. Those two calculators served me well till 2002, when I found a
HP48GX in a pawn shop, and that started the collecting habit.
So I started collecting HP calculators. I didn't want the older machines
that require the special battery packs, and had the red LED displays. I
was nostalgic for them, but they cost a lot of money and are hard to
keep running. I was more interested in the later breeds of HP
calculators from the 1980s onwards, that used replaceable batteries and
had LCDs. And even though I love RPN, I was curious about the breed of
algebraic calculators that HP produced.
My collection begins with the flat brick models of the early 1980s,
ignores the last of the HP41 models, and continues with all the
calculators produced since. The advantage of this is that they are
fairly inexpensive to acquire.
[Collecting]
To help me in my quest for information about the HP calculators, I found
a number of really excellent web sites. I didn't find much information
on the HP site. They only
appear to list their current calculators.
[Collecting]
| Model
| Year
| Type
| Entry Method
| Cost
| Notes
| Have?
| Photo
|
| 6S
| 1999-
| science
| alg
| $10
| Thin and small, body has blue tint which makes it hard to see the
secondary functions. Uses batteries.
| Yes
|
|
| 6S Solar
| 1999-
| science
| alg
| $10
| Thin and small, solar powered. Turns on when you pull it out of
the case. Body has a silver colour, so all the key functions can be
clearly seen.
| Yes
|
|
| 9S
| 2003-
| science
| alg
| $12
| Thin style, with sliding cover, similar in shape and size to the
30S. Removable faceplate, mine was white which makes it very easy to
see the second functions. Where the 9G has a gold cursor button, the
9S has a big button same size in silver with the HP logo on it, but it
doesn't move and it does nothing. Decoration. This is a simple
scientific calculator. It's got the standard sets of maths functions,
statsistics, and base calculations. A little formatting allowed. Only
a one-line display. It's not programmable. Uses two LR44 batteries.
| Yes
|
|
| 9G
| 2003-
| graphing
| alg
| $50
| Thin style, with sliding cover, similar in shape and style to the
30S. The big arrow key is gold coloured with the HP logo in it. Does
graphing, is programmable, and does HP Basic. Removable faceplate, but
no extra faceplates supplied. Uses two LR44 batteries. Comes with a
few pieces of paper for the instruction manual. No decent instruction
manual at all, but for $50 what do you expect. Graphing is coarse, and
the screen is small, but it does the job.
| Yes
|
|
| 10B
| 1989-2000
| business
| alg
| $50
| small financial calculator
| Yes
|
|
| 10BII
| 2000-
| business
| alg
| $30
| rubberised sides
| Yes
|
|
| 10C
| 1982-1984
| science
| rpn
| $80
| simple scientific calculator
|
|
|
| 11C
| 1981-1989
| science
| rpn
| $135
| scientific calculator
| Yes
|
|
| 12C
| 1981-
| business
| rpn
| $150
| the ultimate financial calculator
| Yes
|
|
| 14B
| 1988-
| business
| alg
|
| business and statistics
|
|
|
| 15C
| 1982-1989
| science
| rpn
| $135
| scientific calculator that also does matrices
|
|
|
| 16C
| 1982-1989
| programming
| rpn
| $150
| programmers calculator
| Yes
|
|
| 17B
| 1988-1990
| business
| alg
| $110
| simplistic keyboard, menus
|
|
|
| 17BII
| 1990-
| business
| rpn/alg
| $110
|
|
|
|
| 18C
| 1986-1988
| business
| alg
| $175
| folding business calculator, alpha keyboard on left, menus buttons
with changing menus
| Yes
|
|
| 19B
| 1988-1990
| business
| alg
| $175
| folding case
|
|
|
| 19BII
| 1990-
| business
| rpn/alg
| $175
| last clamshell folding model
|
|
|
| 20S
| 1989-
| science
| alg
| $50
| solid scientific calculator, programmable
| Yes
|
|
| 21S
| 1989-1993
| science
| alg
| $50
| programmable
|
|
|
| 22S
| 1988-1991
| business
| alg
| $60
| science and stats, menus and a solver
|
|
|
| 27S
| 1988-1991
| science
| alg
| $110
| scientific, but had stats and financials, but no programming
memory
|
|
|
| 28C
| 1987-1988
| science
| alg
| $235
| clamshell folding style, symbolic maths, alpha keyboard, 2K memory
| Yes
|
|
| 28S
| 1988-1992
| science
| alg
| $235
| programmable, graphics objects, directories, symbolic maths
|
|
| 30S
| 1999-
| science
| exp
| $15
| programmable, replaceable colour keyboard layers
| Yes
|
|
| 32S
| 1988-1991
| scientific
| rpn
| $70
| science and stats, complex numbers, menus and a solver, programmable
|
|
|
| 32SII
| 1991-
| scientific
| rpn/alg
| $70
| Programmable
| Yes
|
|
| 38G
| 1995-
| graphing
| alg
| $120
| Weird sliding cover, 32K, applets
| Yes
|
|
| 39G
| 2000-
| graphing
| alg
| $70
| Tinted see-through removable hard cover, 256K, applets. New style
keys, small and ugly.
| Yes
|
|
| 40G
| 2000-
| graphing
| alg
|
| European model
|
|
|
| 42S
| 1988-1995
| scientific
| rpn
| $120
| science and stats, complex numbers, menus, built-in functions,
programmable, complex numbers and matrix
|
|
|
| 48S
| 1991-1993
| graphing
| rpn
| $250
| 32K RAM, not expandable. Has a brown colour scheme, pleasant
looking.
| Yes
|
|
| 48SX
| 1990-
| graphing
| rpn
| $350
| 32K, expansion slots, has the pleasant brown colour scheme. Seems
to be the same as the 48S, but it has the expansion slots.
| Yes
|
|
| 48G
| 1993-1999
| graphing
| rpn
| $165
| 32K RAM, not expandable. all operations are the same as the
HP48GX. Has the blue/green colour scheme.
| Yes
|
|
| 48G+
| 1998-
| graphing
| rpn
| $180
| Australian model
|
|
|
| 48GX
| 1993-
| graphing
| rpn
| $350
| 128K RAM, has 2 expansion slots, one for a RAM card and one for an
application card.
| Yes
|
|
| 49G
| 1999-
| graphing
| alg/rpn
| $180
| 1.5 meg RAM, new sleek body style with coloured case. Keys are not
the same much-loved HP style keys, but ugly small buttons. Does both
algebraic and RPN, but the Enter key is at bottom right, which is
clumsy. Screen resolution appears better than the 48 series.
| Yes
|
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